India: a different sporting planet

If you have a thick skin, and the ability to ignore countless uneducated, one eyed and quite frankly aggressive and anti-English comments, check out the comments under cricinfo.com articles. They’re flooded with Indian fans that appear to either know nothing about cricket or have a habit of consuming narcotic substances before they sit down at a keyboard.

Initially, it’s hard not to get worked up by what fanatics in Mumbai and Delhi write, but after a while your enduring mood will be one of sadness. The Aussies and us Pommies have a fierce rivalry, but one that’s essentially light hearted and tongue in cheek. We extract the Michael out of each other mercilessly at times, but it’s generally well natured. The banter with Indian fans, however, frequently becomes bitter and genuinely hostile. How did it come to this?

As someone who has blood relatives living in India (I have Indian second cousins living in Jaipur), I have always supported India as my ‘second team’. Whenever England go out of major tournaments (usually in the quarter finals of course), I start rooting for Dhoni’s boys. Well, what’s the alternative, supporting South Africa or Australia?! You’ve got to be kidding.

Unfortunately however, my attitude is slowly beginning to change. I’m getting tired of Indian fans’ fanaticism. I can understand Indian cricket fans, and the BCCI in particular, flexing their muscles. As a former English colony, they must love the fact that they’re an emerging super power and that India is now cricket’s financial hub. There’s nothing like rubbing your former masters’ noses in the mud.

However, I fear that an extremely vocal minority doesn’t seem to realise that Alastair Cook and Ian Bell have absolutely nothing to do with the British Raj. Neither do English cricket fans. Half our team is South African for heaven sake. No country is more ashamed of its imperial heritage than Great Britain (well, maybe the Americans, but they’re generally in denial about the whole thing).

Of course, there are other reasons why animosity has developed between English and Indian cricket fans – some of which have emerged recently. The DRS is one major cause of tension. Like other nationalities, English people simply cannot understand India’s objection to technology. If they didn’t like it because they believe human error is part of the game, or they think TV referrals ruin the flow of matches, I think we could all accept that. However, India’s objections seem totally illogical and intransigent to us. It’s as if they’re saying ‘we haven’t had the rub of the green with a few decisions, so we’re totally opposed to the whole idea’.

In England, the majority of pundits favour the DRS because it helps the umpires to get more decisions right. That’s the reason why Aleem Dar, the best umpire in the world, is in favour of using technology. Are we to assume, therefore, that Indians don’t want to reach the right decision more often? Hotspot certainly has its weaknesses, as does Hawkeye, but the prevailing attitude of Indian fans is: ‘if it’s not 100% perfect we aren’t interested’. This seems incredibly unrealistic. My internet connection doesn’t always work, indeed my laptop crashes once a week, but that doesn’t mean I want to chuck it in the dustbin. It’s still a bloody useful tool.

For all its failings, statistics have proved that DRS is more accurate than the human eye. All of this, however, is ignored by the BCCI, who have put their foot down over the issue and refuse to budge. The fact that the ICC refuses to tell India where to go, and seem to bow to their every whim, increases the bad feeling that we, as English fans, feel towards Indian cricket. Outside Asia, the BCCI is perceived as a great road block – a self interested body that dominates international cricket with no regard for the greater good. This assessment might seem harsh, but that’s the way many Englishmen, Australians, Kiwis and South Africans feel.

The Indian obsession with limited overs cricket doesn’t help either. Outside of Asia, and some parts of the West Indies, test cricket is regarded as the most sacred form of the game. If the BCCI agrees with this sentiment, it certainly doesn’t act like it. They took India’s tour of England last summer, in which the number one test ranking was at stake, very lightly indeed. India arrived on English shores both unprepared, and dare I say it, a tad unmotivated. The return series in India, the irrelevance we’re watching now, involves five ODIs and not a solitary test match. As Englishmen, we simply can’t understand this attitude.

The IPL also demonstrates the cultural divide between Indian and English cricket fans. T20 is huge on the subcontinent, but most Englishmen find the idea of cricket franchises, consisting of several foreign players who have been bought in an auction, highly vulgar. The sums of money involved are also obscene – and they’re threatening test cricket. The likes of Lasith Malinga and Chris Gayle have no problem missing international fixtures in order to make big bucks playing in the IPL. But do the BCCI, and cricket fans in India in general, give two hoots?

How long before the best young players turn their back on test cricket altogether to pursue careers as freelance T20 cricketers? When that happens, test cricket will soon disappear. More needs to be done to tame the IPL leviathan before it gets out of hand. As Englishmen, we see this menace as an Indian phenomenon. It doesn’t exactly inspire cordial relations.

It’s possible, of course, that Indian fans get aggressive in online forums because they’re defensive about these issues. The most belligerent people (and nations) are often those that feel besieged on all sides. However, I’m not so sure this is the case. The main problem, as I see it, is the sheer fanaticism of many India fans. They are so emotional about the sport that they often lose all perspective. The elation they feel after victories is immense; the reprisals after defeats are bitter and aggressive.

All this emotion frequently boils over – and it often comes out in bitter rhetoric and angry finger pointing (much of which is directed at England). Did you know that some India TV channels reacted to India’s defeat in England by accusing the likes of Jimmy Anderson of being unsporting devils that constantly violated the spirit of cricket? It was all because Jimmy likes to have a word in the batsman’s ear between deliveries; the kind of thing that happens on cricket grounds across the world every single day.

Of course, all this emotion has nothing to do with race or Indian people per se – it’s just human nature. We see it all the time in British football; why else is there trouble inside and outside grounds around the country? Meanwhile, some of the chanting that goes on at Premier League matches is genuinely aggressive, distasteful and full of hatred. The emotions simply run too high.

The problem, however, is that this kind of passion is rarely seen in English cricket. Supporters of the England cricket team are generally cynical, self-deprecating, and have a humorous take on the sport. That’s why the Barmy Army is so special. It’s rare that England fans actually get together and support the team so passionately – and even then it’s all somewhat tongue in cheek. When England lose a test down under, the Barmy Army usually shrugs its shoulders, laughs, and has a few beers. In certain parts of Asia, some consider suicide whilst others burn effigies of the underperforming players that have somehow betrayed the nation.

The response to India’s ODI series win over England is a typical case in point. After India’s test defeats in August, message boards across Asia were full of despondent fans ready to be placed on suicide watch. Now they’re winning again, they’re waxing lyrical about their players, often over-estimating their abilities, whilst rubbishing their rivals. The following quote taken from cricinfo is a typical example (I picked this one, but could easily have chosen another hundred):

“It’s not just the English one day game that is lagging behind. If England were to play 5 test matches in India, they would be wiped out 5-0 – even against this India C side. Yes – this is an India C side – 6 -8 to the players who were a part of the world cup campaign are not playing due to injuries. And this India C side is running circles around the English team – imagine what they would do in the heat over a period of 5 days. I doubt if any of the Test matches would go the distance. Basically the point is that though India lost the series a couple of months ago, that does not make England a No.1 test side. India has so much talent that they can easily field 2 international teams in all formats and have a better than 500 average of wins and losses”.

What planet are people like this on? There is no sense of perspective. Everybody knows that England have a very good test team, but we’ve been rubbish at ODIs since about 1992. It’s just indicative of the highs and lows experienced by Indian supporters. When they’re up, they’re up. When they’re down, they get lower than Chris Tavare’s strike rate.

The reaction to England’s triumph over India in the recent test series, and England’s rise to number one in the world rankings, was generally measured on these shores. After years of being trounced by Australia, we felt somewhat uncomfortable about being number one. Rather than proclaiming England as world beaters, many of us said we were number one because the opposition had got weaker; where are all the great fast bowlers, we asked? Furthermore, I read as many articles praising Raul Dravid’s mental strength, and MS Dhoni’s charisma and composure, as I did about Jonathan Trott’s persistence or Stuart Broad’s return to form. I wonder whether Indian fans would have reacted in the same way?

The obvious point I suppose is this: cricket is just a game. Let’s not get all uppity about something that’s supposed to be enjoyable. International cricket, after all, is just twenty two blokes we’ve never met trying to hit a ball on a field. Is it really worth getting upset about? In the immortal words of Harry Enfield: ‘alright, alright, calm down, calm down’. Or perhaps even those of Michael Winner: ‘calm down dear, it’s only a referral’.

James Morgan

11 comments

  • I found this really interesting.

    I do think Cricinfo comments can be a little unrepresentative, as we are talking about a country of more than a billion people, but nonetheless, the overly defensive and vocal minority can create bad-feeling between fans. So often, you see unsubstantiated comments that abuse the author of the piece of writing one bad thing about India.

    I wrote a similar article here, http://slowlylearningtheoffsiderule.wordpress.com/2011/09/09/from-tendulkar-insults-to-donkey-gate-the-abuse-from-some-indian-fans-this-summer/, albeit about comments aimed at English commentators. The abuse Nasser Hussain receieved at the end of this summer was ridiculous, for example.

    I suppose that since I can both see the positives and negatives in both the England team and ECB (and am in fact very critical of the ECB) I don’t understand people who see nothing but good in their own side. How anyone can defend the BCCI over the DRS issue is absolutely beyond me.

    Anyway, enjoyed it :-)

  • I can’t help feeling sorry for Samit Patel who seems to be getting stick from both his team-mates and the Indian fans and players. This is just not fair.

  • “What planet are people like this on?” Wow!!…and what about people on this planet who compared indian team to dogs and donkeys because they lost ‘just a game cricket’.And plz dont go on bragging that English gives importance to test cricket more than india or anyone else.It just because they are winning in this format, the day they will win in ODIs ,it will assume the same importance for them.
    Remember when the ruthless Aussies used to tame English team and at that time Indian team have beaten them in their own backyard.And just a quick refresh English team lost the test series in 2007 to India in England.
    In Indian culture Guest is God and so you wont see any official article bashing on English performance unlike in England.
    And don’t talk about who was master and slave in British Raj…go and read the history it was English men who came as beggars in front of Indian kings and we got ditched by them for showing generosity and humble nature.

    • They didn’t compare them to donkeys because they lost. It was because their fielding was ridiculous. It was also a harmless comment, just as if they’d said ‘their fielding is appalling’.

    • Haha I love how you basically proved the author’s point. Indian fans in general are way too sensitive and overemotional. It’s time to get a grip and realize this is just a game played by 10 or so countries.

  • I’m sorry rajat, but I think your reaction to what is quite an intelligent and philosophical article kind of proves the point. There really is no need to get so belligerent. I have seen plenty of Indian tv reports on YouTube slaying the English for violating the spirit of cricket. It’s all very unnecessary. Hardly treating guests like royalty. Of course, there are idiots in England too, but they are drawn towards football. In India, cricket is the number one sport and it attracts all sorts. Cricket fans in England simply aren’t used to the fanaticism and see it all as rather uncouth.

  • James, like Sarah I really enjoyed this erudite and thought provoking article. You describe two different cultures which clash simply because the ideology is so different. A Marxist and a capitalist would have a similar problem.
    Before reading your article I logged on to facebook to find a stream of consciousness from
    English-Indias and I quote one: “where are you smug English now?” – unfortunately I don’t think he understands irony.
    On the day the T20 rankings were published, it is perhaps churlish to point out that England are (for the next couple of days at least) top of the T20 and test rankings – the ones based on a range of performances and not just our last thrashing in India (who hasn’t had a thrashing somewhere in the last 5 years?).
    Yet despite our differences, I don’t think that England and India fans are that different. Win a few games and we all get excited about just HOW good we are, lose a couple and we berate. Just when other rubbish England we secretly agree, but Indias seem to go on the offensive.
    It is just a game which we all love passionately. We need each other otherwise there is no game, so let’s enjoy and preserve the beautiful game.

  • no doubt it was quite a logical reasoning presented by author but i am against the way it is mingled with some unnecessary issues like-“There’s nothing like rubbing your former masters’ noses in the mud.”
    As an Indian let me tell you our rivalry order is -Pakistan,Australia and then comes England.
    just because you have seen some idiotic comments on a web forum you cant judge the whole nation’s thinking.If you want i can post the link to some erotic comments of English fans.But i know it doesnt represent the whole and true story.
    There is no better scene for me in cricket than watching english people giving standing ovation to Sachin every-time he walks on the ground.I could not see this happening in even India if he comes to bat after failing in 3-4 innings successively.

    On DRS issue i agree bcci should use it but just remember it was England too who refused earlier because at that time they were not confident and satisfied with that,so with the time i am sure you will see DRS tech. coming in to play.
    On IPL-It has become one of the world’s most entertaining and high profile tournament in Sports. And it is the problem of others country board to mange their players.We do not hold their players hand and drag them to play IPL.

    And talking about emotions and loosing perspective one can see the fin’s,swan’s attitude uttering rubbish on field.Remember it was a much more long painful and horrifying time that Indian team spent in English summer but they never lost their cool even on single occasion .

    In all the article was not unreasonable but it was presented in a such a way as to loom the shadow of it’s negativity on entire nation’s attitude.We know indian cricket and people have their deficiencies but dont try to project yourself too much high in front of those because you too are standing on the other end of the same line.

  • Many thanks for all your comments. Let’s hope this debate doesn’t overshadow another masterful display by dhoni and the Indian spinners. Just to reiterate, my article was referring to a vocal minority of Indian fans – not the whole nation. It’s always the morons who ruin it for the rest – and a sensationalist media (which we also have in England!) I apologise if it came across differently

  • “Did you know that some India TV channels reacted to India’s defeat in England by accusing the likes of Jimmy Anderson of being unsporting devils that constantly violated the spirit of cricket?…

    Of course, all this emotion has nothing to do with race or Indian people per se – it’s just human nature. We see it all the time in British football; why else is there trouble inside and outside grounds around the country? The emotions simply run too high. The problem, however, is that this kind of passion is rarely seen in English cricket. ”

    …Two poor arguments in quick succession. Many commentators in the UK have also noted that our series-winning side is one of the least likeable England outfits in decades. They may have a point. The author then goes on to compare the measured reaction of English commentators with the frenzied fire-and-forget vitriol of the message board. Not a comparison of any value.

    To misdescribe the festival of hatred that is a modern Premier League game as “passion” is to miss a fairly large trick – but somewhere in these mis-matches is the truth of the subject. Beyond the unworthy comparisons is a genuine difference in reasoning between Indian and English cricket supporters. What the author is really observing in the differing behaviour of the two groups has its roots in socio-economic strata and national cultural traits that it is probably too unfashionable to talk about in print.

  • Mav, at no point did I compare Indian fanatics with English commentators. I talked about the reaction on these shores from England fans – which is an apt comparison. Nobody relished indias capitulation in the test series in England. If anything we were embarrassed for dhoni etc. The general point, which is one I think you’re trying to make yourself, is that all sports attract their fair share of fanatics who go over the top (class and/or education might have something to do with it, but who knows for certain – there are no absolutes). However, the fanatics who take sport far too seriously in England are usually attracted to football. In India, cricket is the national sport which is followed passionately by the whole population. India’s idiots are therefore attracted to cricket, together with the objective intelligent audiences. When us englishmen encounter indias fanatics, we think ‘what’s going on here’, and ‘who rattled this morons cage’, and ‘why are they so bitter’. Why? Because we aren’t used to this level of vitriol in cricket. In football, certainly. In cricket. No way. It’s one of the reasons why many of us have turned our backs on football. We don’t want a similarly abusive fanaticism spoiling our civilized bubble. The average England cricket fan simply cannot relate to the fanaticism of India’s vocal minority – and we don’t like it. It’s just not cricket, to coin a phrase

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