Meet the new boss – part three

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The arguments for and against Andrew Strauss as England’s first Director of Cricket are already well-rehearsed. But as his appointment is now certain, maybe we should discuss exactly how the known and unknown factors will affect what he actually does in the job.

Perhaps the second most depressing aspect of this news is that it already is the news, despite the lack of official confirmation or any word from the ECB. The organisation is still leaking like a bloody sieve. If they have something to say, they should either tell everyone – in other words, the public – or no-one.

Time and again we return to the opposition of inside and outside. It’s hard to escape the conclusion that if you’re an ECB mandarin or press officer, an inquisitive but friendly journalist feels like someone who occupies your world, someone who understands, and someone whose credentials bring a degree of entitlement.

You have known each other for years through travelling the world on the England circuit. You’ve shared the same hotels, drunk in the same bars. You are members of the same club.

To the same ECB official, the public, by contrast, are remote, amorphous and alien. You don’t know them from Adam. It rarely occurs to you to tell them anything.

In the English cricketing universe, you can only be in, or out.

Andrew Strauss is as ‘in’ as it’s possible to be – the ultimate insider, the apotheosis of establishment. In a realm of neatly-polished blazer buttons, his are the shiniest.

The most depressing aspect of his coronation is what this represents. When Paul Downton was sacked I wrote here that the move could and should signify a break from the past – and an end to the ECB’s jobs-for-the-boys culture of cliquey insularity.

Tom Harrison, the new chief executive, not only had the opportunity to reconfigure the organisation around outward-looking meritocracy, fresh eyes, and open minds, but had visibly implied this was his real intention. Some hope.

Who could possibly put it better than Geoffrey Boycott did:

It has been suggested in the media that in the next two weeks Andrew Strauss will be appointed as the new director of English cricket. If that is the best that Tom Harrison, the chief executive, can come up with, God help us. Why? Because Cook calls him “Straussy”, they opened the innings together for a long time, are best mates, shared dressing rooms.

So Cook will be safe and captain for ever, as will some other players Strauss played alongside. He is too close to so many of the current players to take an objective view. And if his comments on air about Kevin Pietersen last year are anything to go by, there is not a cat in hell’s chance of him returning.

So don’t hold your breath for the promised changes, as we will be swapping one nice lad – Paul Downton – for another in Strauss.

The more the England and Wales Cricket Board changes, the more it stays the same.

In truth we don’t know exactly what’s happened behind the scenes – neither the nature of their thinking and processes, nor their undertakings with Strauss, nor the mindset he will adopt in his new job. It is not entirely their fault – perhaps none at all – that Michael Vaughan turned down the gig. Vaughan cited the “limitations of the role”. Does this mean that the job description is too narrow – and by extension, impotent – or that it would limit him too much, in his domestic and professional life?

What of the other candidates? What happened to Alec Stewart? Is there no viable figure from abroad? What does it say about the ECB that, despite their wealth, there are so few people prepared to work for them?

That said, we could be worse off. At least Strauss is an intelligent man, and a careful, forensic thinker, with hefty accomplishments both as player and captain. He is in touch with the modern game. None of which was true of Paul Downton.

Strauss’s closeness to Cook (and other senior players) is – as everyone has said – a very significant difficulty. How will it affect him? It’s hard to believe the problem hasn’t occurred to Strauss himself. Did he wrestle with it before accepting the appointment?

Strauss is neither stupid nor naive. He has surely resolved not to let personal attachments cloud his judgement. I don’t remember him being an especially sentimental captain, blinded by loyalty and unable to make difficult decisions.

But unconscious bias is harder to suppress. Strauss may support and sympathise with Cook not because they’re friends, but because they see the cricketing world in the same way. Both are roundhead grafters, believers in systems and orthodoxy, and suspicious of maverickism and ostentation.  Strauss may ultimately back Cook because what Cook does, and represents, resonate with his own sensibilities – or at least, more than the alternatives do.

The Pietersen dimension is complex. It wasn’t Strauss who sacked Pietersen. Strauss appreciated what Pietersen brought to his England team, and said last month that “in terms of being able to do things that other cricketers couldn’t, in the England side while I was involved, [Pietersen] was the one guy that stood out for me”. Commentating on Sky last year, he once said of a particular situation that the ideal player to come out to bat, at that moment, would be Pietersen.

Strauss has publicly recognised the damage done by the nature and handling of KP’s dismissal. None of us know his true feelings, now, about Textgate, but he conceded in his autobiography that Pietersen did not, after all, relay tactical information to the South Africans.

If Strauss really is still fuming about the vaguely-known contents of one private and innocuous BlackBerry message – if his skin is really that thin – he doesn’t have the perspective or magnanimity the Director of Cricket role requires. Does he now recognise how the ECB mishandled Pietersen in the summer of 2012 – and his own contribution to those failings?

On paper, he has virtually ruled out a Pietersen return – on the basis of very Straussian logic. In a Lord’s podcast on 11th April he said:

If you look at it from pure cricketing logic, after this Ashes is over, it’s quite hard to see a situation where Kevin Pietersen would come back into the side. You’re building to the next Ashes in two and half years time and the World Cup in 2019.

I think if you were to bring Kevin Pietersen back it would be a short-term measure to help you win the Ashes but I can’t see that happening personally because there are too many bridges to build in too short a period of time.

And on 26th March:

I still think it’s very unlikely that he’ll play for England again. It’s going to take something extraordinary, England to lose a lot of games and for Pietersen to score a lot of runs – and probably for a captain or a coach, or both, to lose their jobs in the process.

I’d be surprised if he plays in this Ashes series – and if he doesn’t, then it’s counter-intuitive that he would then come back in the side when they’d be building again towards the next Ashes series in two-and-a-half years’ time. There would have to be a lot of things that go wrong with the England cricket team between now and the start of the Ashes for him to come back.

A lot of things have already gone wrong for the England team since then, and we still have the New Zealand tests to come. Strauss made those remarks as a pundit, not an official. If England are two-nil down to Australia, with two to play, a collapsing middle-order and Pietersen in good Surrey form, will he still maintain these arguments? How can he insist that a medium-term expediency will hurt the side at a moment where everything’s at stake?

And what will he say when the case of Chris Rogers is put to him? In 2013, Chris Rogers was older than Pietersen is now, and with virtually no international experience. In theory everything about his selection was panicky and shortsighted – but it worked.

Should Pietersen remain high on the agenda this summer, Strauss will end up in a similar mess to his predecessor when he begins claiming that black is white. Scyld Berry forecast the official party line on Saturday.

While England’s dispute with Pietersen over “Textgate” disrupted Strauss’s 100th Test, it is understood that personal feelings would not be the reason for maintaining the ECB’s ban, but the disruption that the public and media furore would cause to England’s emerging Test team if Pietersen did come back.

These words have the strident politically-leaked ring of truth. For want of a proper explanation of their policy, the ECB will transmit this line, via journalists, which is far easier than publicly saying “we’re got going to pick a player because you would make too much fuss”. The strategy is double-edged. If England lose the Ashes five-nil, without Pietersen, what of the “public and media furore” then?

My own conclusion is that, ultimately, Strauss’s opposition to Pietersen is absolute. This is partly due to a tinge of personal bias but more because of his mindset. He will look at the problem through the lens of systems and management-theory – instead of acting on gut cricketing instinct.

Darren Lehmann would pick the player most likely to win a vital game and sod both the politics and the consequences. Who cares about logic when you’re lifting the Ashes urn? But Strauss wouldn’t, for fear of disrupting the clean lines of his plans and vision.

Beyond Cook or Pietersen, it is Strauss’s devotion to systems, theories and analysis which will define how he does the job – and if it goes wrong, this will be the reason. Strauss is a famous admirer of the Moneyball school of thought. As captain, he pored over business and military manuals to garner and assemble strategies. Much like Andy Flower and Peter Moores (despite his differences with the latter), Strauss largely buys into the notion that cricket can be systemised, atomised, and reduced to the components of a machine. And in this manner will he run the England team.

For sure, international cricket requires hard work, planning, discipline, pragmatism, and a degree of logic. But cricket is an art before it’s a science, and certainly before it’s a business. All champion cricket teams are built on the creative, instinctive brilliance of individual performers and cannot function without the taking of risk and the expression of personality. Name me an exception.

Strauss’s England will try to play the percentages. He will decide on a model and oversee the selection of players who fit that model. The desire for a smoothly functioning system will trump raw but unpredictable talent.

Beneath this lies – to repeat a phrase I used on Saturday – Strauss’s overweening, cultish, belief in ‘team’ as a metaphysical entity. His philosophy appears to be that a team exists in and of itself. Devotion to team – and suppression of self for team – wins cricket matches by itself. Tell that to Shane Warne. It was the supposed damage to ‘team’ which so riled Strauss about Textgate. To his mind, the unknown contents of one private text were more likely to lose a cricket match than removing the best batsman.

Much depends, though, on the precise job description for the Director of Cricket, which we previously discussed here. Will the role involve overall team leadership, making the Peter Moores role redundant (but retaining tracksuit coaches for individual disciplines)? Will Strauss also be the de facto chair of selectors? If not, or neither, what will he actually do, without cutting across both Moores and James Whitaker, causing confusion and overlap, or simply twiddling his thumbs behind a desk as a white elephant? The last thing English cricket needs is another middle-manager.

89 comments

  • “Strauss’s overweening, cultish, belief in ‘team’ as a metaphysical entity” Are you sure you spelt “cultish” correctly Maxie?

  • Strauss is certainly a better bet than Downton. Closer to the current team yes (although many of Strauss’s team have moved on), but he’s actually played and succeeded in the game at the highest level and understands the modern game.

    Turning this into ‘who has the best relationship with Pietersen’ completely misses the point and is certainly not the main criterea for appointing the new director in any case. Strauss’s past misgivings of the current England coach is surely much more pertinent.

  • I could be waking up to a double whammy this weekend: a Conservative government and a Conservative Director of Cricket. I despair, really I do.

    ‘To his mind, the unknown contents of one private text were more likely to lose a cricket match than removing the best batsman’ – if this is true then he’s just really, really thick. And weak. The Saffers played the England dressing room and Strauss and Flower fell for it. So what are we left with? Tim Not So Nice after all but Dim x 2. What a grand vision!

    • Me too. I totally despair. If the Tories get in we’re doomed and if Strauss gets in then England Cricket is doomed.

      Leaks are the name of the game it seems. Vaughan backed out of the running because the job was too limiting. According to some wag on DT the T & Cs of the job are already public knowledge. If true then the job is very slimmed down from the one Downton had. Office bound and no travelling with the team? An admin job looking a strategies? If so then the job of coach will be far more hands on?

      I’ve said this elsewhere but it does seem appropriate, well to me anyway! A line from ‘A Very British Coup’ between the Establishment man and the rough and ready and radical PM from Sheffield. Establishment man say how he and those of his ilk have been in control and will always be in control “Yay even unto the Middle Ages!” Isn’t this how the system goes and has always gone?

      As you rightly say Maxie, Strauss is very much part of the “in” crowd which is why all the usual suspects all pumping him up as the only man for the job.

      I’d like to know why the ECB talked about having a Head Hunter to find the right person? Was Strauss hiding in a tea caddy then? I mean it’s pathetic really. Boycott was absolutely right in every respect. Gus Frazer was pumping up Strauss. You can bet yer life the Middlesex Mafia have had a hand in this and I can see Flower hands all over this, not matter what anyone says to the contrary.

      • Puzzled by the linking of this with the general election. The last government wrecked the country’s finances. The ECB won’t do that, although they may not win any matches this year

        • Me too Benny, Don’t know why I said all that. Just that ECB shenanigans remind me of this government. Only difference being that this government says it ain’t got any money and the ECB… well it just won’t spend any as it says it ain’t got any money. Oh wait a minute. LOL

  • I meant General Election. Let’s not politicise this debate. I’m voting Tory and proud (via a proxy as I live in N.Z) IN 24 hours because I don’t want Mr ******* Bean to lead our country to rack and ruin kike he has already done before 6 years ago. Its Like ECB appointing Moores as England coach again after he’s already failed in the position. I hate city fat cats, Downton shabby slimy turd and Strauss and die eyed Cook as much as all if you bloggers and,I want KP back in the batting middle order, but making crass and shite political views will just alienate the long time readers of this blog. We ate nit all right on socialist beatniks like some contributors. So,we focus on the cricket, right?

  • Some random thoughts (mainly gleaned from listening to George Dobell on Switch Hit and a R5 discussion last night):
    1) Dobell says Strauss favours separate Test and ODI coaches.
    2) Strauss has made some noises favourable to more England players going to the IPL. Some renegotiation of central contracts to make that possible is needed.
    3) John Etheridge said Strauss will want to make a bold move to show he is not the Establishment candidate. It looks bad for Moores. The only issue looks whether he’ll be given the NZ series as one last chance (Lawrence Booth for one claims his ECB sources reckon he will).
    4) The DoC role looks more and more like a long-term strategist than a hands-on supremo. Nasser Hussain has written it is more Hugh Morris than Ray Illingworth.
    5) Strauss and Cook may not be as cosy as has sometimes been assumed. Strauss seems to have something of an ‘older brother’ relationship with Cook – but much has changed in two years and Cook doesn’t look like he does polite deference any more. A power struggle over the coach isn’t going to get them off to an easy start…..

  • I think Strauss said that no one player should be bigger than the team, which I wholeheartedly agree with, but he also said that any team needed a rule-breaker like KP to challenge the status quo.

    As far as Boycott’s piece, that’s a classic piece of Boycott windbaggery, probably clouded by the fact that he was up against Vaughan, a Yorkshireman – interestingly every change Boycott would make to the England team involves bringing in a Yorkshire player. Nobody knows what Strauss would do about Cook, or Moores

    I would suggest that the underlying animosity that obviously existed between Flower and Pietersen was managed well by Strauss for the best part of 4 years until the end of the South Africa series in 2012. You could say that England, and particularly the relationship between KP and Flower, un-ravelled fairly quickly after Strauss retired. Strauss was also intelligent enough to recognise when his time was up as an England cricketer.

    People on here are going to hate this because of the whole ‘insider/outsider’ nonsense, and because of his successful association with Flower. As far as I remember, Strauss didn’t pick Flower as coach, he was appointed captain under Flower, and forged a successful relationship with him – again, that seems to me to be an exceptional quality for this type of role, whatever the role ends up being.

    One thing that is clear is that the incumbent will need to be able to work within the current structure, and deal with a whole host of different characters and personalities, be it the England team, the Lions, Loughborough, the counties and the ECB. Those are qualities that Strauss has in abundance.

    Of course, it will not please those who judge a person’s qualities based on whether they’ve ever fallen out with Kevin Pietersen or not.

    • The insider/outsider debate is far from nonsensical given the parlous state of English cricket: Perhaps you missed this piece:

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/england/11546893/English-crickets-public-school-revolution.html

      But I agree that as captain, he played a vital role in England’s success, m ainly, I suspect by keeping Flower at arms length. He’s clearly a capable man but he’s too close to the current team and hardly represents a bold leap into the future, must more corporate sameness.

      • The ‘insider/outsider’ debate isn’t anything to do with state/private education. I was referring to the comment made last year over the KP affair, and that those ‘outside cricket’ didn’t understand what was going on.

        Flower did a huge amount of good things for English cricket, and under Flower England played an awful lot of very good cricket – who cares that he wasn’t fluffy and soft and handing out cuddles

        Since you bring it up, though, your article highlights the problem that is the lack of priority given to sport in state schools. My parents were both teachers, mum in the state system and dad in an independent school. The difference was that sport (and music, drama and other extra-curricular activities) was seen as a key part of the overall education experience, and questions were asked if a child wasn’t active outside traditional scholastic areas, whereas in the state system it was an afterthought. Facilities weren’t markedly different, just the attitudes of teachers, and more importantly, parents. Kids don’t play sports because they see it on satellite or FTA TV, they play if they’re encouraged and / or if they see their parents involved in sport.

    • think Strauss said that no one player should be bigger than the team

      Food for thought for the current captain….

  • lets forget about KP for a moment, it doesnt matter whether he gets in or not, the lad has been allowed to hold a bat in his hand let it do the talking for him..

    Now coming to strauss its just too much conflict of interest having him in the role due to the ideology shared between him cook and moores.

    they also have the same agent
    http://www.thisisparagon.co.uk/what-we-do/talent-management/

    Im willing to believe a person can be honble etc but why take a chance with a guy that’s going to just amplify the same method, has numerous conflict of interest..instead might as well as not appoint anybody at all. Despite having a disastrous PR so far due to their last appointment why does ecb want to again appoint someone not in favor with the public. and why this nonsense of leaking it instead of shoving it straight in our faces/

  • My view is that Strauss would not have been a particularly successful Captain had he had to captain a team without

    – KP
    – Trott
    – Prior
    – A fully fit and functioning Broad, Bell in form, and a fully functioning Cook
    – (Largely) a 3rd seamer he could rely on (Tremlett, Bresnan)
    – and, by far the most important, Swann

    He now has to run a successful England side without any of the above.

    It could, of course, be that he works some magic and can get Bell, Cook and Broad firing again. That would make a huge difference. It’s not clear to me to what degree their decline is due to factors that Moores and Cook aren’t controlling, and to what degree Moores and Cook are the problem.

    In short, for me, the difference between Cook and Strauss isn’t tactical nous, or leadership ability. It’s the resources they had/has at their disposal.

    Hope I’m wrong. Hope he can really bring something to the game. Getting rid of Moores would be a step forward, but then who is going to coach this shower?

    • Well, you’ve gone and listed 8 players. Of course, if you a deny a captain almost his entire first-choice XI, he might struggle.

      If you went through one of the great Australian sides and rubbed out Hayden, Langer, Ponting, Gilchrist, Warne and McGrath it would probably have made matters tougher as well.

    • “It could, of course, be that he works some magic and can get Bell, Cook and Broad firing again”

      How is he going to do that? Is he a coach now as well?

  • Incidentally, I still haven’t had my main question answered by anyone, ATL or BTL.

    What is Andy Flower’s job? Will he still have it when a DoC is in place? What will his relationship be with the DoC?

    • We don’t know. All we know is that he reports to Tom Harrison.Byzantine doesn’t begin to cover it.

  • Can we nail it down to a few Yes/Questions?

    Will Strauss become DoC? Yes.
    Will Cook be replaced as captain before the Ashes? No.
    Will Moores be replaced as coach before the Ashes? No.
    Will KP be recalled? No. Never.

    Even if England were humiliated by NZ, the only point that might shift there would be Moores. I think the course between now and the Ashes is otherwise set.

    Am I wrong?

    • “Will KP be recalled?”

      Faint chance for T20I perhaps (WC next March).

  • I’m not sure any of the original 3 main candidates for the job, (Stewart, Vaughan and Strauss) really offer the vision for change that the team needs. Whilst all are relatively recent captains of England none could be viewed as visionary or, and importantly, ones that could re-energise the public into supporting cricket as a national sport. UK cricket, from grass roots to the Test team, is in decline and despite the sums of money involved our professional team looks pretty mediocre – to coin an oft-used phrase. Given that success breeds success and that everything we say and do is politically motivated then my feeling is that national apathy with the political elite mirrors national apathy towards the ECB. Strauss the Tory, Vaughan the LIb/Dem and Stewart the Labour aren’t really the candidates to make the juices flow just as our choices tomorrow will have us begrudgingly off to the polls voting for the least bad candidate, in our opinion, and I guess that if cricketing fans were asked to vote for their DoC they’d feel similarly. If Strauss is appointed DoC then it will feel like more of the same just as if we return a Con-Lib/Dem coalition.

    Where is that new dawn?

  • Fascinating post Maxie, beautifully written as usual. You make many interesting points to consider. I share your concern about methodology being more paramount than cricketing flair and talent but overall I am prepared to trust Strauss until he gives reason for doubt. The way he did things brought good results. I accept that times have changed but those blessed with some intelligence usually grow with changing times. He has many qualities that seem to be suited to the role as far as we know it. Sub conscious preferences and prejudices are a devil but who is free of them? We can only apply good sense and try to do the best we can. Proving that you are not an establishment figure is no good reason to do anything. I hope that Strauss will simply do what he thinks is best and that includes the role of Kevin Pietersen.

  • I can’t seem to post more than a couple of paragraphs without the post comment button becoming invisible. Not sure why, but the old system was way better than this everybody’s logo seems to have gone

  • Another tedious party political broadcast on behalf of the ECB by Hamish. YAWN! Although, this bit was particularly hilarious….

    “I think Strauss said that no one player should be bigger than the team,”
    ha ha ha Has he or you ever heard of captain Cook? If ever there was a man bigger than the team it was captain doofus. He’s only been in the job 300 years and he is still clueless. How many opening partners have been sacrificed to protect Captain fantastic? His tactics are crap, his field settings crap. He has no idea how to handle spin bowlers. But hey the sponsors like their name on his shirt.

    • I would take Boycotts opinion over yours Hamish any day of the week. And over the other ECB lackeys Strauss, Agnew, Selvey, Newman and the other grifters of the ECB. Boycott has been saying for over a year that this England team are not as good as they think they are and he has now been proved right. Thrashed by Australia, beaten by Sri Lanka, and drawn with the WI. Their one great win against the worst touring test team in the world India. Hip Hip, Horay.

      As for your cheap shot that this is some Yorkshire conspiracy. Really? is that the best you can come up with Hamish? Essex Mafia anybody?

      • Didn’t make any comment on the quality of the current England side.

        Happy to defer to Boycott about the quality of an opening batsman’s technique or on-field cricketing issues in general, not sure how he’s qualified to talk about what Strauss might or might not do as Director of Cricket.

      • Boycott was absolutely right on the money. Just one person in the middle of all this ECB malarky who won’t Kow Tow to the Establishment. Good for him. Nothing to do with Yorkshire really, but Cook kicked where it hurt Boycott and he gave it back large! Boycott was right. Cook does believe his captaincy is a right. When did that ever happen in the past? Captaincy is right no matter whether you can captain or not? Let alone if you can play well? I despair with the rubbish that has gone on in England Cricket and looks as though it will run and run. Reminding me of the man with rope round his leg and nailed to the floor. We just go round and round and round.

    • How many opening partners have been sacrificed to protect Captain fantastic?

      Arguably two. I just don’t buy this argument that keeps being trotted out (no pun intended!) about Cook’s form killing every other opener off. I would however like to know how much of a say he has in selecting them, as a few can consider themselves very harshly treated.

      Like Compton, dropped three tests after making consecutive hundreds! Nothing to do with Cook’s form though as he was still batting well at that stage.

      Carberry and Robson were also unlucky, considering their returns were better than their captain. His poor form could be an issue here, although it did pick up in the second half of the summer, while Robson’s unfortunately tailed off…

      Definitely don’t see his batting being the cause of Root’s and Trott’s failures against the new ball. I just think they are technically better suited to a middle-order role at this stage of their respective careers.

      • How many opening partners have been sacrificed to protect Captain fantastic? – SkySports listed 8 this morning

        • 8??! Are we just talking about Test cricket, are the other three they mentioned? Can’t think of anyone else other than the five above…

    • Typical Mark comment – anyone who doesn’t share the blinkered, keyboard warrior let’s slag everybody off attitude is somehow on the ECB payroll – heaven forbid that I should actually hold a different opinion to you.

      Just to make it abundantly clear, admiring the qualities of someone who had a more than decent track record as international cricketer and captain is NOT the same as supporting the ECB, so that blows that obnoxious piece of bullshit out of the water. What I liked about Strauss was that he was given a job as captain after the Moores / Pietersen fiasco and he just did his job. He didn’t blame the coach, issue ultimatums, make excuses for losses, complain about schedules or how tough his lot was – he just got on with the job given to him by his employers, worked with the people around him and made a success of it. I would call that being a professional.

      And as far as your other nonsensical crap about Cook, as far as I understand it, since September 2012, Strauss has had no involvement with anything to do with the England team as a player, coach, administrator, kit-man, bottle washer or anything else, so I’m not sure how you manage to link my comment about Strauss to Cook and the current set up. Maybe that’s why he’s exactly the right person for the job.

      You know Mark, it must be nice to sit up there on your high horse, tapping away, rubbishing people with excellent records with such impunity, and dismissing anybody who recognises their qualities as a ‘lackey’. If you’d actually read what I’ve posted, I don’t support the ECB, far from it, but I do support and have admiration for individuals who have got to the top of the game and played significant roles in victories for the team that I support.

      • Hamish your first paragraph is rather at odds with your actions as you said this above..

        “As far as Boycott’s piece, that’s a classic piece of Boycott windbaggery, probably clouded by the fact that he was up against Vaughan, a Yorkshireman”

        So when you disagree with some one its wingbaggery? But I or Boycott are not allowed to do the same. Careful you might fall off you own horse.

        If you admire Strauss, good for you. I think he was a good opening batsman and an extremely over rated captain who benefitted from a number of very good players at the height of their careers. The likes of Swann and KP won more matches for England than Strauss’s captaincy ever did. His great triumph was Austrailia in 2011. I would like to leave it there, but since he and Cooks supporters have made that series akin to the likes of 2005 or bodyline it has to be pointed out it was one of the worst Australian teams and attacks in Ashes history.

        It’s well known that he and Cook are great mates and as a Sky commentator he has defended Cook up to the hilt. He was the only Sky commentator still saying Cook should stay as ODI captain. But he is exactly what the ECB want. He ticks all their boxes, boring, conservative, a belief in team as opposed to individual flair. A Roundhead as Maxie says.

        Oh dear I have given an opinion that no doubt you will dismiss as wingbaggery because it doesn’t chime with your opinions.

        You must be very happy, you have the old band back together Flower, Strauss, Moores , and Cook. The Hamish dream team. No excuses now.

        Hamish….. “but I do support and have admiration for individuals who have got to the top of the game and played significant roles in victories for the team that I support.”

        Great, I look forward to you writing something positive about KP one day, seeing as he reached the top and played a significant role in many victories.

        • You can always tell the paucity of an argument when somebody starts to pick on individual words you’ve used – I described it as a classic piece of Boycott windbaggery because that’s what I think of some of his opinions – I don’t think you’ll find that I’ve used that term anywhere else, so in fact, it’s not what I say when I disagree with somebody else’s opinions.There’s the problem with trying to make sweeping generalisations about those who disagree with you, Mark.

          Regarding me being positive about KP, again, you haven’t read what I’ve written in the past – you’ve been too busy just dismissing my opinion because I’m not on the bring back KP bandwagon.

          I’ve said on more than one occasion that up to 2009, he was, if not the best, certainly the most destructive batsman in world cricket. Where I’ve disagreed with you and the other ‘KP walks on water’ group is that from 2009 to 2014, the key batsmen in the England team were Cook and Bell, who provided the bulk of the runs, so he was no longer England’s ‘best’ test batsman and the messiah that you and other Pietersen acolytes seem to think.

          Given that KP’s performances post 2009 were significantly lower than his first 5 years, then Strauss didn’t benefit from him at the height of his career, did he? In fact, KP averaged less than Cook, Bell and Trott under Strauss, making him the 4th best batsman in the England team during Strauss’s time in charge. Again, read what I write, don’t make it up to fit in with the box that you’ve decided to put me in because I don’t agree with you.

          As for Swann, that’s taken straight out of a KP quote last year that England would struggle against India without Swann who won games for Strauss and Cook. How do you explain that Swann’s record vs India in India under KP was so poor, where he averaged 39 with the ball (in India!), where he averaged 29 under Cook? Maybe there’s more to this captaincy lark than you and KP think.

          It’s interesting that the high profile critics of Cook’s captaincy (Boycott, KP and Shane Warne) never captained at test level for any length of time, yet you and others take their word as gospel, while dismissing the views of Hussain, Atherton, Strauss, Gower and those who actually did the job.

          As far as Strauss being an ECB ‘lackey’, his description of the way the ECB had handled KP’s sacking, the autobiography, the dossier and Cook’s sacking as ODI captain as either ‘clumsy subterfuge or incompetence or both’. Fairly strong words for an ECB ‘insider’.

          Flower, Moores, Strauss and Cook – the dream team. I defended Flower’s record as coach, don’t think I’ve ever said anything particularly about Moores, positive or critical, Strauss I’ve covered above, and as for Cook I disagreed with those who say a man with 8500 test runs and 26 centuries is a crap batsman.

          A bit far away from your portrayal of just about everything I’ve written Mark.

          • Hamish

            What you say about Pietersen after 2009 is completely true. I can tell you have researched it. I just want to raise a small point of order which is often overlooked, to my immense frustration.

            Some people (not necessarily you) use these statistics to paint a narrative of a declining contribution under Flower, usually emphasising external factors such as attraction to the IPL, rather than other factors that may have been equally important, such as his knee injury, Achilles injury and distrust/disillusionment/paranoia (delete as applicable) arising from the Moores farrago. Here are two perfect examples from people in positions of influence:

            http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/oct/14/kevin-pietersen-england

            http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/789027.html

            From my perspective as a fan, their use of stats is incredibly misleading and borderline insulting, because his average declined only from a Comptonesque 50 to a Thorpesque 44 over this period. Over the same period, all four batsmen you mention averaged more than every other England batsman since Boycott (with the sole exceptions of Gower and Thorpe). And Prior wasn’t far behind. Even the fourth best performer would have been prized at any other time in the last 35 years. This period saw historically outstanding collective batting and these stats should imo never be used to diminish Pietersen’s own contribution.

            • Stats don’t tell the whole story Arron, but I make the point to counter those who blindly go on about Pietersen still being the ‘best’ batsman in the England team in recent years, when he wasn’t. England without KP in 2008 would have been unthinkable – England without KP in 2014, not so much.

              History will undoubtedly rank Pietersen as the best and most destructive English batsman of his generation across all formats, and rightly so, and even though his numbers in recent years are not as stellar as the first half of his career, the Adelaide, Mumbai and Headingley innings in particular were all memorable and should be cherished.

              As far as the articles you link to, I actually don’t think they’re completely wide of the mark. He, and England as a whole, benefited from the weight of runs provided by the top order.

              As for injuries / disillusionment etc, it’s a bit of a side issue, because his job was to score runs for England, his employers. My personal view is that he got bored and stale in the treadmill that is being a centrally contracted England cricketer, and the glitz and glamour of the IPL was probably attractive. That’s not a criticism of him, more a criticism of the drudgery of the international treadmill.

      • That is very unfair and unnecessary methinks. There is nothing wrong with being passionate and upset by the way things have been done and not done in the past two years. You might not agree with Mark and Mark may not agree with you Hamish but you do go too far.

        • Spot on Anny. I think the truth falls in the middle. Certainly, both Boycott and Strauss would like nothing more than to see England win and come up with a team and system that makes it happen. Never liked Boycott the person but I’d happily pick him as the first person to go out and fight for the cause. Strauss was never brilliant but he surely did his best and picking up England after The KP/Moores issue was impressive. I’m in the wait and see camp on the DOC thing.

          Much more interested to see what Graves does, once he’s settled in. For me, that’s the important role by a mile.

        • You say I go too far Annie when I was the subject of the ‘ECB party political broadcast’ and the ‘YAWN’ comment for expressing my opinion on Andrew Strauss, because I disagree with Boycott’s assumption that he’s going to protect Cook no matter what. I’ve disagreed with Mark in the past, but as far as I remember, I haven’t launched insults at him

          And why, in your opinion, is my passion about these subjects not valid? Is it because I take a different view to you and Mark? Who gave you the right to judge what level of passion I have on the subject of England cricket? If I wasn’t passionate, do you think I’d really spend time voicing my opinion on this board, when I know I’m going to be the subject of snipes and jibes about being an ECB lackey?

          I thought this blog was supposed to be a broad church for all opinions, not just the people that agree with you.

          • Oh your passion is great but some times it gets personal. You say such good stuff and so does Mark and a lot of other people on here. I personally think what Boycott said had to be said by someone. I do not believe he is a windbag. One thing he definitely isn’t and that is an establishment man. For that he gets my vote. He gives his opinion no matter what. He’s not a sycophant like the usual suspects in the press.

            I am very sorry I have upset you, truly I am. I’m not being a judge, I’m just giving my opinion.

            I apologise for any offence caused.

            • Thanks Anny, we all get a bit overheated

              The reason I bit on Mark’s comment is because I really resent the continual allegations that because I defend individuals that have worked within the ECB, I get lumped in as some kind of ECB apologist, and what I actually write gets completely misrepresented by tenuous attempts to leap on individual phrases or words.

  • Since the list of candidates was revealed (leaked?) a few weeks ago, and as this story has been developing, one thing has struck me more and more as becoming apparent –
    the ECB has finally started to come around to the idea that Cook is not a good captain (particularly off the field where his foot goes into his mouth far too much for a guy who doesn’t otherwise make a habit of bravado or outlandishness), and that Moores is not a good coach.

    Why else would they basically be appointing someone to what will effectively be the role of ‘England captain without actually playing’. All three canditates named were ex-England captains, and indeed, ones who are generally considered to have been sucessfull ones (with a certain amount of leeway to Stewart, who in my opinion was never in the running anyway but just put up as a name to prevent people claiming the whole process was the sham it so obviously is).

    More than anything this appointment seems to have the weird double consequence of undermining Cook whilst simultaneously securing his position. Making him more secure in a role that is less meaningful suddenly. Think Tony Blair winning his last election basically at the behest of Gordon Brown and then effectively being a puppet Prime Minister to trot about on the world stage while Brown pulled ever more strings behind the scenes.

    Look, just to quickly set out where I stand on the issues so you’ll understand why I think the appointment is a terrible one. I actually support Cook as captain – I don’t think he’s very good at it but I still subscribe to the TINA argument and think it’s pointless to change things now so close to the Ashes. For people countering the TINA argument, who is there? And for God’s sake don’t say Root. Just what the hell exactly is the difference between Cook being the anointed FEC and the way Root is viewed now? There is nothing Root has done or shown to suggest that he is any sort of captaincy material, and yet he’s already being hailed by some as the messiah, the anti-Cook when in actual fact he’s exactly the same – a young batsman with a marketable face who the powers that be think will be just good enough to hold onto his place while captaining the side for a while so as to maintain a bit of stability for the sponsors.

    Anyway, got a bit side-tracked there. The point is that Strauss is effectively coming back to pick up where he left off before retiring, minus the odious hassle of actually playing or being out on the field. Whatever the role entails, this appointment could have been the moment that English cricket took a wonderful opportunity to get someone with pedigree and different experience (i.e. a foreigner) in thus bringing with them a breath of fresh air and a little less tolerance for ECB bull. My ideal appointments would have been Rahul Dravid or Graeme Smith (well seeing as there was never any chance of anyone else anyway, might as well dream!).

    • I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: there is an alternative. There are 10 alternatives all of whom would do a better job. My elderly retriever would do a better job. Cook is a laughing stock to serious cricket analysts. Revisit the comments made by successful, experienced international cricketers. Even his supporters make no claims for him as a captain other than TINA.

      • And appointing any of them, including your poor retriever, this close to the Ashes basically washes away any slim chance England have of performing this summer as (imho) the overhaul of changing the captain now would be too disruptive to a relatively young team.
        After the Ashes one way or another things will probably be sorted – either England lose them and Cook goes (at least he should do) or they win them in which case it would be damn hard to keep the ‘sack him’ momentum going.

      • Kind of think that if he was going to have a cheese sandwich’s chance in Bresnan’s pocket of getting a go at captaining the side then he would have by now, don’t you? When you think about all the different captains England have had across all formats, particularly in the last few years when Bell has been seen as a senior player, it’s quite the list. Pietersen, Strauss, Cook, Collingwood, Morgan, Swann, Broad and now Taylor. One name that is conspicuously absent is Bell. Actually Anderson is fairly noticeably absent too, given that he apparently wanted the job at one point.
        The point I’m trying to make is that, from the pov of the ECB or whoever it is that makes these decisions, Bell is not seen as a captain, rightly or wrongly (I too have heard the rumours that he’s quite innovative and tuned-in when skippering Warwicks). You can argue that he’s now the vice captain, but to be honest before Trott came back he was about the only senior player left who wasn’t also (like Broad and Anderson) in serious danger of physically breaking down at any point. And the fact that Buttler was made vice captain ahead of him (and Root, interestingly) for the World Cup speaks volumes.

  • Agree about Rahul Dravid. Downside is that I have not heard of him showing any interest in the job. Also agree with your view on Joe Root as a replacement captain, for now at least.

  • May I make a very gentle plea for a little general restraint in comments about fellow posters. Of course, we will be holding each other’s views up to scrutiny, as we should, but it would be lovely if we can keep this fairly civil and not too personal. James and I have always left comments unmoderated (except in extremis) but you can understand why we occasionally need to nudge things in the right direction. Many thanks. The exception of course is – you can say what you like about me!

    This is emphatically not aimed at anything in particular, although earlier today I did have to remove something rather too below the belt. All we want is for everyone to enjoy visiting this site and taking part.

  • It’s interesting that most people discuss the possible future of Pietersen in terms of him returning to the Test team. That would indeed be disruptive and that ship has surely sailed.

    Where he’s needed is in the short forms – which would anyway be better for him since his knee is possibly still fragile. He could be really useful for a few years bringing his experience and flair to the T20 side, above all.

    Possibly Strauss can see that. Apparently he’s in favour of having different coaches for Tests and one-day.

    • George Dobell has been plugging the one-day recall line for a while. If Dobell is right and a separate ODI/T20 coach is going to be appointed then that seems likely to be someone like Giles or Collingwood who wouldn’t seem to have a problem with Pietersen. Also the senior players who do have a problem with Pietersen are unlikely to be around.

      One drawback would be if Pietersen was successful the ECB would look even bigger clowns than they do now (especially if the one-day was doing well while the Test side wasn’t).

    • Could definitely see KP back in the T20 side. Not so sure about ODI’s given that he didn’t seem that keen to play them for England at one stage. But T20’s? Definitely.
      I think from a player management perspective as much as anything, largely (not totally) separate short form/test sides are a good idea. England play more than just about any team in the world (especially in this year of scheduling lunacy) and our set up has to reflect that.

  • Cant see the point of sacking Downton and replacing him with another person from the same clone factory of ECB insiders. Why do you need Strauss if you already have Flower in the building? Strauss is Flowers pupil, and both lived off the talent of other great players like KP and Swann.

    Waste of money. But then the ECB has become the place to go for big contracts and little expected in return. ,The funniest thing is the notion they hired a recruitment firm to find the right person. Strauss must have taken some finding.

    RING RING “Hello, Andrew Strauss? ……..Yes…….Mr Flower gave me your number, would you like a job.”

    The best thing is Strauss will now have to give endless interviews to Nasser defending Cook. Stack up on popcorn!

      • Aren’t all the Insiders? Isn’t that the nub of the problem Ian? Gus Frazer pumping up Strauss, Pringle, Etheridge, Newman, Selvey and even Berry. Lots more of course. Those who do agree are on the outside as always. The only tough nut who doesn’t and won’t tow any line is Boycott. Insiders fit up and all the usual suspects fall into line around new man. Downton not even mentioned by all those who said what a brilliant man he was in the job. Strauss will have the same fate if he fails. I think England Cricket will be in the doldrums for a very long time.

      • Ian,
        Nasser would have some sympathy for Cook, having gone through a horror run of form that was actually much worse than Cook’s – albeit for a shorter time. He wasn’t dropped either, which supports my contention throughout all this – that England don’t drop their standing captains for bad form. They may replace them or they may retire – but they don’t drop them. I can’t think of one being dropped since Denness in 74/75 – and even then he had to do it himself. Fletcher may count as another one, post the 1981 India tour, but the circumstances of that were fairly unique.
        Looked at in that light the treatment of Cook isn’t that exceptional – it’s just part of a long term England trend.
        Nasser has had a few pops at Cook’s captaincy in his time, so I don’t think his support of Cook the captain is as unconditional as you make out. But he does think that Cook the batsman, back to his best, is vital for England – and I agree with him.

        • I see you point Kev, but most captains resign when they can’t justify a place in the team due to poor form. Cook’s far too stubborn. Plus we don’t know how many of these people were ‘persuaded’ to resign.

          • James,
            “Cook should have resigned” has always been a much more likely argument, I think – particularly in the wake of the Ashes debacle. It also seems to be the thing that came closest to happening.
            He absolutely stayed on too long as One Day captain, and for that he should carry a deal of blame for the World Cup fiasco.
            But I also get why he stayed on as Test skipper. He would have known that Prior was running on fumes, and past him, any succession would have been a massive punt. At that point, Cook’s natural caution and aversion to taking chances would have aligned nicely with his own self-interest. I also think it’s very likely that most of the players would have asked him to stay on too – which is not something to be rejected lightly.

            • I’d forgotten that Cook talked about resigning after an ODI in Australia (maybe at the MCG?). However he was persuaded to stay on by Clarke and Downton. I don’t know if this was his captaincy of the just the ODI team or the test team too.

        • Hi Kev’ I agree with much that you say but did you see the fawning, stomach churning interview Hussain did with Sky after Cook scored his hundred in WI.

          It really was nothing short of open adoration with very little respect for the facts or context of the innings.

          Yes many others have indulged in the same genuflective adoration for Cook since but Hussain was particularly jarring because I had previously seen him as a fair and quite balanced commentator.

          • Ian,
            I didn’t see it – but I have heard from many here that it was as fawning as you say. Having said that (and with the greatest of respect) I think many commenters here are rather one-sided in their view of what is fair and what is not :)
            I’ll say this. There’s a time and a place to be aggressive in your interviewing. On the 4th evening or (especially) post-match in Barbados, I would have expected the questioning to be harsh. But a few minutes after a first century in 2 years isn’t that time – I think that would have been a time for Nasser to reflect the relief that most (not all, but most) England fans would have felt.
            But, for context, I am a huge Hussain fan – so I’m always going to be inclined to think the best of him.

            • Did I say 4th evening in Barbados?? I wish the game had gone that long! I meant 2nd evening of course….

              • Nasser has actually been quite critical of Cook in the past. Last summer he was very critical about his captaincy after Headingley and Lord’s. I’ve also heard him say that Cook’s batting has been ‘worked out’ a couple of times – once during the India series and another time in Sri Lanka I think. I imagine Nasser’s fawning is an attempt to repair their relationship. We all know that Cook gets very touchy when the media criticises him. He’s probably going out of his way to be ‘balanced’ i.e. criticism when it’s due, and praise when it’s due.

    • dont tell me they had a head hunting firm for this… i mean they are ECB cant they just put an ad for the job and people turn up.I can understand a firm in situations like bringing farbrace form SL camp but if this is how they spend the money.

      • Absolutely right. That is what I said Gonthaar. It is utterly ludicrous to appoint a Head Hunter when all you are going to do is appoint yet another establishment man. Would have done better had they used the money to appoint a dynamic leader.

  • So the director of cricket, responsibilities include designing the systems and structures around the team that leads to long term success, and then appointing the right coaching and selectorial staff to lead this process.

    What relevant experience has Strauss (and Vaughan) got in that matter. Can someone give me a list of the clubs or national setups they have successfully designed, directed and managed in order to demonstrate some degree of competence for this position?

    • they are already in the process of making him look good, somehow him being in a alumni club of eng cricketers is that meet every two years is considered as experience given that would be one meeting for a few hours in his 3 years. and his personality pep talks.

    • You’d think someone in the English MSM would have made that point but I can’t think of one example of a journalist who has.

      The post is being treated like some long service award for England ex-captains.

      • The process seemed wierd to me as well.

        Surely if they really wanted someone to oversee the cricket, development, performance etc then they should be interviewing people like Moxon and Stewart, plus a few from overseas – Kirsten, Fleming, Wright and Moody, who have a bit of experience of this sort of thing.

        I originally thought they were going for a “superemo” and would merge the old job with the Chairman of selectors job – and thus eliminate Downton and Whitaker, in one swoop. Now it sounds like the DoC job will basically be a head of PR spokesman type of thing. If they decide on this it will be a great waste of money, and will end in tears, regardless of who takes it on. The media will constantly ask the the ECB’s spokes-zombie: “what are you personally going to do after this latest debacle etc” and “why aren’t the captain and coach here today to answer our questions?”. In addition who on earth would want the job of explaining the failures of other people? Better off doing what Hussein and Vaughan have decided to do i.e. speak on TV; its better paid and far less stressful

  • For me the idiocy of this is that the choices for the job presented have been Strauss, Vaughan and Stewart. Of the 3, only Stewart has a track record in a management role, and he’s been a rank outside all along.

    If we’d held a genuine search and compared Strauss to some strong candidates, I could take the idea that he was the best for the job (and that he has good qualities that I don’t see) – but this coronation sticks in the craw. It also looks far too much like the selection of Moores for comfort.

  • Weeelll……Strauss hasn’t been officially appointed yet has he? I’m totally self convinced that there is very much a “influence” struggle within the ECB, between the Establishment and Colin Graves?
    Maybe that before Graves officially starts, the odious Clarke has played his last hand, and is using his notoriously leaky press office to bolster that manouvre? Who knows? It makes sense to me! I’m secretly hoping that Graves pulls Alec Stewart out of the top hat at the last moment, but I’ll hope in vain I guess!
    There’s been enough hot air blasted off on these blogs to float a fleet of Zeppelins…personally, I’m in the wait and see camp, keeping my powder dry, but I’m just wishing that whoever gets the job remeber that :- “fortune favours the brave”

  • Andrew Hughes on the 1-1 draw in the West Indies:

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/content/story/871231.html

    “England have now reached level M on the Graves Universal Measure of Mediocrity (“M” being the middle-most letter of the alphabet). They are the epitome of moderate, the median point in a scale that runs from very good to not very good, the faded white line in the middle of the road.”

    In the world of baseball, they have the “Mendoza Line” – which refers to a player who isn’t good, but isn’t bad enough to be dropped. It is named after Mario Mendoza, who for many in the world of baseball is the epitome of the “not bad enough to be dropped” type.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendoza_Line

    Right now it looks like English cricket is closer to the Mendoza Line than it should be considering the resources the ECB has. Certainly some of the players are hovering just above said line. I look forward to the upcoming test series against the Kiwis, as it will be the first chance to see England play the red ball in home conditions since India surrendered without a fight before the World Cup.

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