The end of the English summer is a difficult time for all of us. We pack our kitbags away in the loft or garage – inevitably forgetting to unpack that pair of sweaty socks from the last match – and we start questioning the meaning of life without cricket. This is also the point at which, if you’re a Sky Sports subscriber, it’s traditional to question the value of coughing up £25 quid a month if there’s no daily cricket to look forward to. Bloody Murdoch!
However, it’s not all doom and gloom. One of the benefits of reading TFT is that you get to play blackjack with the careers of international sportsmen. It’s a simple concept. You go through the current England squad and decide whether to retain them or chuck them down the metaphorical waste disposal in the hope of unearthing someone better. So without further ado, let’s indulge in a game of cricketing stick or twist.
Rory Burns – Stick
390 runs at 39 is better than Alastair Cook ever managed in a home Ashes series. And Burns achieved this against the best bowling attack the Aussies have sent to Blighty since 2005. As one of England’s few successes of the Ashes summer, the new coach can ink in Burns’s name at the top of the order for the upcoming tours.
What impressed me was Rory’s determination, bravery, stickability, and his ability to improve against the short ball as the series progressed. Normally when the Aussies detect a weakness they exploit it mercilessly. However, although Burns never looked completely comfortable against the short stuff he was resilient enough to come through the ordeal. He was rarely rattled, and possesses a sound defensive technique. Let’s just hope he can improve against the spinners as time goes on.
Jason Roy – Twist
Well, it was probably worth a go. 110 runs at 14 was a hugely disappointing return and poor Jason looked completely out of his depth. Although it was always a stupid idea to open with Roy, and I was amazed how many so called experts actively campaigned for it, I reluctantly argued that it might be the least worst option England possessed. However, we arguably stuck with him for too long when it became obvious (wasn’t it always?) that his defence wasn’t up to scratch.
Moving forward I’d jettison Roy from the test squad altogether. There seems little point dropping him down the order. He’ll be 30 next summer and I’d rather invest in younger players like Ollie Pope. What’s more, there’s always a danger that messing with Roy’s technique and mindset might affect his white ball form. Think Jonny Bairstow in reverse. Let’s keep Jason as a one-day specialist. It suits him.
Joe Denly – Stick (in the squad)
This was probably the hardest decision of all. Denly is a solid 15. Sure you’d like something nearer 21 (especially in terms of age). But a 15 is a 15. England could do worse.
Although 312 runs at 31 isn’t particularly good, Denly showed improvement as the series went on and his three half centuries were all scored at vital times. Yes he’s not perfect. He plants his front foot in the same place delivery after delivery which makes him poke or waft at balls he should probably leave. However, he can tough it out. And when he does occasionally make contact his scoring shots look crisp and pure.
Personally I wouldn’t start with Denly in an ideal world. However, his ability to bat in numerous positions makes him the ideal tourist. As a veteran / placeholder / utility batsman it makes a lot of sense to keep him in and around the squad. And his ability to bat at 2, 3, and 4 will give Root and the new coach a lot of flexibility.
Joe Root – Stick
I’m not dropping Root that batsman. That would be the most scandalous act of self harm since, I dunno, sacking Kevin Pietersen (ooooh controversial)! However, I would drop the skipper back to 4 where he averages a world class 48 rather than a middling 38. And I might even prefer it if he wasn’t skipper.
I thought Root’s captaincy was generally poor this summer and I don’t think he has a real feel for the art. Yes he may learn. And yes he may improve under a new head coach who isn’t so relaxed and hands-off. However, if England lose in South Africa then it’s time to identify a new leader.
Ben Stokes – Twist, just kidding, Stick.
He was England’s player of the summer by miles. Without Stokes we probably would’ve lost the Ashes 0-4 and we might not have even reached the World Cup knock out stages let alone win the final.
Stokes matured so much as a batsman this year. The improvement was off the charts. His temperament is superb, his technique is sound, and he’s capable of special performances. The only question is where he should bat. And how much he should bowl.
just hope a desire to accommodate Sam Curran doesn’t affect how England utilise Stokes. In an ideal world he should occupy the traditional all-rounders spot: batting 6 and operating as the 4th seamer.
Jonny Bairstow – Twist
The ginger warrior had a terrible test summer. 214 runs at 24 is a poor return for a player so talented and he needs to pull his socks up. However, perhaps we should adjust our expectations for Jonny? Everyone harks on about his golden 2016 when he averaged 59 and scored 3 hundreds and 8 fifties. But if one examines his career it’s the only year that he’s averaged more than 35; therefore 2016 was the aberration not the norm.
If Bairstow is only going to average 30ish then England would be better off with Ben Foakes. However, there’s one thing that would improve Jonny’s prospects: giving up white ball international cricket.
Bairstow changed his technique a couple of years back to open up the offside and win a place in England’s ODI side. He’s done that now. He’s won his World Cup winners medal. So now it’s time to get back to basics and improve his defence again. The problem is that England can’t keep rewarding players who underperform so badly; therefore Jonny might have to make way for now.
Jos Buttler – Stick (just)
I’m really torn on this one. When Buttler was recalled by Ed Smith last year I argued that he’d probably succeed against mediocre bowling but would struggle against the top class stuff. And statistically that’s what happened. The Aussies sent Jos packing at home in 2015 and they pretty much did the same this time too. Shouldn’t England be looking for players who can score runs against the best?
However, although Buttler’s 247 runs at 25 looks very poor on paper, I don’t think it tells the whole story. For starters Jos was often batting down at 7 – a ridiculous state of affairs that left him little opportunity to build proper test innings. What’s more, he did improve as the series progressed and looked far more comfortable towards the end.
Because I can’t see too much wrong with Jos’s technique, and he’s shown the ability to knuckle down when needed, I would actually persevere with him for now. It’s also worth pointing out that he’s a very good player of spin, and there will be tours overseas when this trait is invaluable.
The problem is how to fit him into the side? England can not afford a luxury player at 7; therefore Jos has to play as a specialist batsman at 5 or 6 (depending on where Stokes bats). This puts him into direct competition with Ollie Pope. I’d pick them both in the winter squads and let them fight it out for a place.
Chris Woakes – Twist
10 wickets at 33, and 120 runs at 20, was not the summer the Mighty Woakes had in mind. Maybe that niggling knee injury that held him back, but he just didn’t look effective with the ball after Lord’s? And worryingly it didn’t look like Root trusted him.
Woakes has always been a cricketer who delivers at home but struggles overseas. He’s fortunate that England will be touring New Zealand this winter where he might get some swing. However, I’m not sure how effective he’ll be thereafter, particularly in South Africa where he took just two wickets at an average of 98 back in 2015/16.
I’ve often supported Chris in recent years, and I rate him highly as a cricketer, but he’ll be 31 next summer and I’m not sure if he’ll recover that vital ‘nip’ unless he can get himself 100% fit. Consequently it might be better for England to invest in Sam Curran rather than the unfortunate Woakes this winter.
Sam Curran – Stick
I’m not sure if he’ll win a place in the starting XI but Curran is obviously a promising cricketer with a long-term future. He might have to bide his time behind Ben Stokes for a while (unless injury to one of the other bowlers creates a vacancy) but his left arm angle and ability to swing the ball back into the right handers provides invaluable variety.
I was encouraged that Sam seemed to find an extra half a yard of pace at The Oval. Speed obviously isn’t everything but it certainly helps. If he can ultimately operate in the mid 80s rather than the high 70s then he suddenly becomes a viable fourth seamer rather than a part-timer.
Craig Overton – Twist
England love his temperament. I love his temperament too. But he’s just not quite good enough for test cricket unless the pitch helps him. That means he’ll likely be a passenger overseas.
Although his batting is courageous and pretty organised, I just don’t see the point of investing in Overton. He’s a good wholehearted cricketer but I don’t think he’s quite as good as Tim Bresnan (the closest comparison I can think of).
Stuart Broad – Stick
Why gamble when you’re in possession of a solid 19? Broad rolled back the years this summer and looked as good as ever. He’ll be effective in both New Zealand and South Africa and provides both leadership and experience.
Jimmy Anderson – Stick
Dropping Anderson would be like flushing a diamond necklace down the toilet. You just don’t do it. You treasure it. I would give him every chance to prove his fitness for the winter tours. Yes he’s long in the tooth but he was bowling just as well as he’s ever bowled before his injury.
Jofra Archer – Stick
When you’ve got a world class fast bowler capable of reaching speeds of 95mph it’s best to just ignore him. Why risk upsetting a settled dressing room? Shoehorning an outsider into the squad – even when he’s considerably better than the incumbents – is frankly immoral.
Yes. A few idiots actually said exactly this at the start of the summer. And they look like even bigger idiots now.
Archer is already world class and it won’t be long before he’s competing with Pat Cummins at the top of the bowling rankings. But before you make him a fixture for the next decade, just think of the culture, just think of the culture. And then sod the culture and pick him anyway.
Moeen Ali – Twist
Goodbyes are difficult sometimes. I love Mo. We all love Mo. But Jack Leach is better. He’s more reliable. And to be honest I was getting a little sick of discussing Moeen’s confidence and mental state every time England travelled overseas.
I really hope that Mo can come back and play for England again. He’s certainly good enough to. We can’t just write off his 98 test wickets at 32 in England. And we can’t just write off his 5 test hundreds. However, neither can we ignore his poor record overseas, where his wickets have cost 41.
Jack Leach – Stick
Leach is already a cult hero for his glasses and bald head, but what people should really be talking about is his bowling. His test record to date is quality: 32 wickets at 26 with an economy rate of 2.8. When was the last time an England spinner began his career (both at home and overseas) so promisingly?
Leach took 12 wickets at just 26 in the Ashes and one could argue that he out-bowled Nathan Lyon (who’s wickets cost over 30). Although Jack still has some learning to do he looks like a spinner England can rely on. If he’s not taking wickets then he provides control. And that’s exactly what we’ve lacked since Graeme Swann’s elbow went on strike back in 2013.
James Morgan
Agree with most of your assessments. Personally I think you are a trifle over generous to messrs Denly and Buttler, although I can see your reasons for including Denly in a tour party. I would like to see Dominic Sibley selected at the top of the order, with Pope replacing Buttler and Foakes donning the gauntlets rather than Bairstow. I might try Stokes at #3 and use him only as a part time bowler.
I would also give Sibley a chance to open. Burns’s success shows that county players can still be successful.
Broadly agree with you James.
One minor typo nit, did you mean “England can NOT afford a luxury player at 7” under Buttler? #freeproofreading #cosIcare 😉
(Thanks Pete, I’ve fixed the typo – James)
Agree on all except Bairstow and Woakes. Woakes is a squad player and we should have him as back up for inevitable injuries. New Zealand in particular likely to suit as you say.
Bairstow I would keep for the form he has shown in 2016 as you say and for similar form for Yorkshire when he often turned around collapsing innings. Yorkshire’s batting has been weaker ever since he left
James is right that 2016 is the blip (like M Vaughan’s stellar tour of Australia). In 2016, I thought there were times he looked like the only player in the England batting order with any idea of how to stick around. But, just we spent nearly five years too long clinging to the idea of Vaughan as “the best batsman in the world”, it is now wrong to think of Bairstow as a serious Test player. His keeping at the Oval was a bit above his usual standard, but his batting is a liability. There is no indication he can regain the form of 2016. And there are times when he seems remarkably selfish.
Vaughan’s form went down hill when he took the captaincy and immediately moved down the order to 4. Had he stayed as a specialist opener I think he would’ve stayed near the top of the rankings imho.
Actually, Vaughan opened in 40 of his 90-odd innings as captain, averaging low 30s. He was most successful at 3 as captain and only batted about 20 times at 4. I was surprised, because I though he had moved down to accommodate Strauss.
Pretty much agree with that lot. I do wonder whether Anderson will play for England again, but hope he does. One point I noticed is that the England players’ stances all appear to be “white ball” stances. Legs apart, knees bent, bat raised. Good for playing shots, not so good for defence.
Got to be preparing for a post-Anderson future, even if he’s still got something left in the tank. Rest a few of the players who have been slogged all summer in favour of some fresh blood this winter, and give Anderson a farewell game next summer
Solid analysis.
Not much to add – except to clarify that Sam Curran would be picked for the future, for development (as both Flintoff and Stokes were – inconsistent, pretty-much passengers for the first couple of years of their Test careers), not for what he has actually done so far (on average).
I am in 2 minds about Jonny Bairstow
Dropping him would be a good way to wind him up and we all know that he plays better when he has a point to prove
On the other hand, we can make Bairst6the captain, which will goad him to make centuries every match, so that he can give the 3 fingers to the press
I would play Stokes at 4/5. He is too good a batsman to bat any lower
If I pick Buttler it would be only as a specialist keeper and take the gloves of jonny (that will wind him up even more)
Denly is more suited 3/4
So the batting will be something like:
opener/Root
Burns
Denly
Root/Stokes
Stokes
Bairstow (c)
Buttler (wk)
Curran/second spinner
(Woakes/pace bowler)
Archer
Leach
Broad
agree almost entirely, the only one (and it’s a pretty controversial one) I am twisting on is….James Anderson. Yep, time is up Jimmy, we need to build for the Ashes down under and give our bowlers a chance of competing down there to avoid yet another humiliating never ending tour. That means giving as much international experience we can to people we know for sure can be fit and ready to put in the hard work of trying to get the likes of Steve Smith out in Aussie conditions
Retaining Anderson as #1 bowler would be a mistake, this is not a private club where for sentimental reasons we allow individuals to go when they are finally forced to accept they can no longer do it at this level. He might be fine now, but he will be 40 for the tour down under. It’s time to say goodbye next summer Jimmy
Based on results Jimmy is still England’s best bowler. Since Root became captain he’s taken 108 wickets at an average of 20.19. Broad has 90-odd at 29 (in more matches at a higher strike rate). In fact in his last 5 years his figures have been as good as at any time in his career, and his record in his 30s is better than his 20s.
He’s had a calf injury that’s taken longer than expected to come good but what international bowler hasn’t had injury lay-offs. His performances before that injury demand his inclusion if and when he’s fit again.
It’s not sentimental – on the last Ashes tour he took most wickets at the lowest average and had the best economy rate. It’s a massive ask but as long as his speed doesn’t drop down below 80mph he’s got enough skill to do a job.
I think 2-2 was about right for this series. You can complain about Roy understandably, but an average of 14 makes him look like a giant next to the Aussie openers, though you can’t really set a lower bar than that.
Butler is a funny one. As both teams had immensely fragile batting line-ups, he came out looking better than he probably is?
Anyway, the bowlers had some lovely days out for both sides which makes for very entertaining cricket. I always prefer to see batsmen getting it in the neck to the bowlers.
Do you take Mo on tour as a back up to Leach or do you give him a winter off? Would be tempted to do the latter as he really doesn’t need to be carrying drinks for 3 months. Definitely would want to see him back.
Have always wondered what would have happened if Mo had been allowed to develop as a test batsman as opposed to spending his time trying to become a frontline spinner. Would actually love to see him give up bowling and try to secure a place in the top 6. Remember his first test ton was a 4th innings effort where he almost salvaged England a draw.
Who are the potential players coming through with an eye on the Ashes down under that didn’t play this summer? Batting wise there’s obviously Sibley and Crawley at the top and Pope for the middle order. Is Joe Clarke still an option or has his star waned? Is there anybody else?
Have no idea about the bowlers. Agree about Overton. Stone should get on tour, Wood’s injuries are an issue, and I don’t really rate Curran (T) as a test bowler. Who else is coming through as a pace bowler and who would be the back up to Leach?
The main batting options are Sibley and Crawley at the top, with Pope, Northeast, and maybe even Sam Hain in the middle order. Clarke has had a complete nightmare this year (possibly due to off the field stuff) as have the rest of the Notts side. It just goes to show that the grass isn’t always greener.
In terms of bowlers Gregory, Coad, and Porter have done well this summer but I’m not sure they’re quick enough to have a big impact overseas. With England touring South Africa I would’ve thought that Jamie Overton is probably next in line if Wood / Stone aren’t fit.
Is Craig quicker than Jamie?
Would be loathe to drop Woakes unless it’s a case of him recovering some fitness. He hasn’t been at his best but think he performs that change seamer / no 8 batter role better than Curran because he’s more able as both batsman and bowler. Curran has more star quality, but sometimes you want a footsoldier in the Gilo / Bresnan style to make tough runs and grind through some overs.
Jamie is brisk. A good yard quicker than Craig.
I’ve always been curious – does a yard of pace have any objective definition?
It seems to be used in practice for units of about 4 mph, but what is the derivation of the term?
Given that we are playing 3 Test series this winter, and God knows how many SF matches as well, and that next year we have 6 tests, 6 ODIs and 6T20s to accommodate, I think it’s time we lost some of the excellent white ball players from the test arena (ie Bairstow and possibly Buttler) and instead brought in some new talent (eg Sibley and Pope for starters and maybe others), paid them enough to discourage them from the IPL etc and got them to focus on their LF skills so that we might just have a team able to compete down under in 2 years time.
Do the ECB have enough clout (monetarily or otherwise) to stop these players chasing the franchise money?
Yes. In most cases. Central contracts are highly lucrative.
A lot of these sticking and twisting decisions have to be made with one eye on who else is available for the winter tours.
So I agree with
– sticking with Denly because we need cover on tour for the likely openers Burns and Sibley, and
– there’s a strong argument for leaving out Woakes because of his overseas stats and with Broad, Archer, Anderson, Stone and possibly Wood there may not be room for him in the squad
On the other hand
– we’ll need a second spinner in the squad and I find it hard to see beyond Moeen
– we need wicket keeper cover for Foakes (best keeper, best batsman among the candidates) and Bairstow is a better keeper than Buttler – I see this as more relevant than batting ability. Mainly because I’d be selecting Pope ahead of either of them in the starting XI.
But isn’t it great that we can narrow the squad candidates to about 20 players and aren’t expecting a unexpected 1980s/90s style callup? Remember trying to predict touring squads in those days and reading the following morning about how England had selected Geoff Thomas, Ricardo Elcock or Norman Cowans?
Roy – Sibley / Pope
Bairstow – Foakes
Woakes – Sam Curran
Craig Overton – Jamie Overton (or Wood / Stone when fit)
Moeen – ?
Agree it’s hard to choose an alternative for second spinner. Bess has actually had a decent year (when he’s played) 16 wickets at 24. Ditto Amar Virdi who’s taken 20 wickets at just 17.
PS I still remember the front page of Wisden (or was it the Cricketer) when we selected Cowans and Elcock for that tour to the Windies. The headline read “Fight fire with fire”. But sadly I think they all got injured before the plane left!
Do you mean Greg Thomas?
James I almost agree with all your piece accept Jimmy Anderson. I absolutely would not pick him. You can’t pick him on recent form because he hasn’t got any. He can’t provide any because the summer is over. He isn’t fit either and can’t prove match fitness because there are no games left.
Cricket has a tendency to allow players who have performed well in the past to pick themselves. Your stick and twist is mainly on form and if you applied that to Jimmy Anderson you couldn’t possibly stick with him.
I’m not saying he shouldn’t play next summer if he can prove his match fitness and form but I certainly wouldn’t be taking him on a winter tour.
Anderson could come into a match completely cold and still be one of the best bowlers on show. His action is well grooved, repetitive, and he knows it inside out. With his track record he’ll walk into the squad if fit. He’ll find form in the warm up games.
Broadly agree, but get rid of Bairstow for Pete’s sake. Lousy average and a sub standard keeper who throws tantrums. Anderson’s time is almost up and we have to build for the future, at the very least you can no longer play him and Broad together at the expense of developing others. He won’t play in the next Ashes so sorry but no. Wood and Stone? Terrible fitness records.
He’s missed 4 tests and effectively about 6 weeks of cricket. See my post above about his record over the last 2 years under Root – better than everybody else and as good as at any time in his career.
Why should he only play next summer if he proves his fitness? If he’s fit for the winter he should play in the winter. Not like he’s had a long strenuous summer like the guys playing across all formats.
6 weeks of cricket for England that should read. Most bowlers have injury problems. Jimmy at 37 is as fit as many of the guys that are 10 years younger.
Was as fit but not now. Once you get injuries at 37 they tend not to go away.
It’s one injury – most fast bowlers have injuries all the time and Jimmy’s been injury free since 2016. You may be right about this one, and we’ll know more in the next 12 months, but the arguments above have been that he’s getting picked for sentimental reasons and on reputation. The simple fact is that his performances over the last 2 years have been exceptional and there is literally nobody else who can do what he does.
There’s no doubt the clock is ticking, and I would be amazed if he’s still there for the next Ashes, but for me he plays as long as his pace stays above 80mph.
The bowling would have been fine if Anderson was there. When Anderson comes back, Anderson+Broad+Archer are a packed deal. Archer would be effective everywhere including the subcontinent. Not sure if Leech has the mojo for getting wickets in subcontinent where Pujara could play him for a day or two alone.
In batting, well –Twist Everyone–
To be realistic can’t see many twists with this present one eyed set up, as it would betray their philosophy of the tramsferrance of form between formats. Bayliss’ successor, whoever that is, will have the same moronic attitude to guide them, so for the time being I can’t see a change of tack.
If you want to rebuild I would only keep Burns, Root, Stokes and Butler (too talented to give up on him yet), of the batsmen. Broad and Archer select themselvesa and Leach deserves another chance. This leaves you with 4 places to fill; 2 top order batsmen, a third seamer and a wicketkeeper, Foakes being the most obvious choice. Sibley is the favoured opener but 3 is wide open for grabs and there are any number of 3rd seamer alternatives, but none that look that special. Woakes ‘B’ game just isn’t good enough for test cricket, as batsman or bowler and Curran may have had a decent series against India, though not as a bowler, but what has he done since at any level to warrant another chance? It’s clutching at straws to suggest he has star quality. You shouldn’t be picking players when they’re not delivering the goods consistently.
At some point you need to give new boys a go to see whether they’ve got what it takes at this level. As with the likes of Trescothic you can’t predict success from technique alone, but you do need a pretty unflappable temperament and the self belief to adjust up a level and these can be gleaned from the county circuit.
Unless we can find a reliable top order we’ve little chance of recapturing the Ashes in 2021 and the likes of Denly are clearly not the answer for that. Whatever we may think about the laudable attempt to produce a more competitive test environment with a world championship, the Ashes is still the benchmark series.
In reality there’s not much room to do a lot of twisting as the replacements are not exactly shouting to be heard.
Having looked at the series averages, I note that Denly scored 13 runs less than Root and averages just over one run less.
He’s not wholly convincing bit he’s a decent fielding and his occasional bowling is useful.
I worry about Woakes. Has been been genuinely injured or simply fallen foul of Root in some way? I’m sticking with him.
Bairstow is a far better keeper than Buttler. Neither the latter nor Foakes gets on a plane. Cox travels as reserve.
What happened to the dozens of pace bowlers queuing up to play? I’m unconvinced by Currans but who to take his place?
I think that Ed Barnard is better but I doubt that the selectors will.
Overton (either of ’em) – twist. Mo – twist (regretfully). I’d take Banton along for the experience.
Curran and Foakes at 7 + 8 gives the whole side balance. Both have been overlooked as they’re not fashionable macho ODI merchants ala Roy, Bairstow and Buttler.
At the length and angle Curran bowls I don’t think he needs to bowl 85mph+ to be effective. Foakes is the best gloveman in England and has the most sound technique or at least the most suitable for test cricket (and the best average).
Sibley deserves a chance to open and Denly is perfectly suited to no. 3 meaning dropping Root down to 4 and Stokes to 5.
6 is then a shoot out of the stroke makers between Bairstow, Buttler or Pope.
I refuse to write off either Broad or Anderson, at least in the short term, but fast forward to the next Ashes I doubt we’ll see them both in the same side.
1. Burns
2. Sibley
3. Denly
4. Root
5. Stokes
6. Bairstow / Buttler / Pope
7. Foakes (Wk)
8. Curran / Woakes
9. Archer
10. Leach
11. Broad/Anderson
I’d also like to add that the much criticised Count Champs provided the Aussies with the perfect prep this summer. Thinking of Patterson, Siddle and Labuschagne especially.
How many England players have travelled over to Australia to play shield cricket prior to an Ashes series? There aren’t many I can recall.
“we start questioning the meaning of life without cricket”.
Something we should all do. Why exactly does anyone follow any elite sport?
Moeen Ali has effectively retired from Test cricket aged 32 because the T20 WC is more important. Meanwhile Simon Harmer wants to play for England…
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